Friday, August 29, 2008

Atheism: Hitler's big mistake

You see - if Nazism had been a religion and not just an ideology the liberal progressives would be welcoming him with open arms by now.

Try as I might, I can not see any significant difference between the ideology of Islam and that of Nazism.

Intent on world domination ... check.
Pathological hatred of Jews ... check.
Belief that followers of the ideology are superior to non-subscribers ... check.
Indoctrination of above in children from an early age ... check.

The only major difference is that at least the Nazis built good cars, decent roads and made the trains run on time. If only Adolf had been a God botherer the swastika would be as prevalent atop various buildings in our towns and cities as the crescent.

H/T - House of Dumb

Incidentally, if anyone is wondering whether this means I think we should allow Nazism as a legitimate ideology - the answer is no. Go figure.


Harry Hook said...

Nazism was a religion, based on Teutonic paganism and societies like the Thule and Vril whose creed contained a hatred of the Jews, seeing them as being then enemy of the Volk... the German people.

Hitler purposely wanted to forge a mystical pseudo religious creed as he realised it's power to unite in a cause... hence the lifting of the Buddhist/Jain/Hindu Swastika and Masonic rituals and symbols, Death's Head etc.

Stan said...

Yes, but Hitler's mistake was to take the religious symbolism and apply it to a political ideology. There was no "god" in Nazism - only a Fuehrer. Islam retains the God and elements of Judeo-Christianity and adds in the political ideology PLUS a fuehrer in the form of Mohammed allowing it to remain, on the face if it, a religion, whereas underneath it is, in reality, a political ideology every bit as twisted as Nazism.

Harry Hook said...

From Wiki...
"A religion is a set of tenets and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, or religious law. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and religious experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction."

Not much mention of the need for a God in that definition... besides Hitler borrowed the Christian one with the 1933 Concordat between the Vatican and his Nazis Government.

Interestingly, 'Nazi' was the name of a Sumerian God.


William Gruff said...

Religion and politics are inseparable since each reinforces the other. Conversion and reform depend upon political support and I suspect that Hitler's 'mistake' had more to do with closing the NSDAP membership list at a relatively early stage.

Denigrating the Nazis is absurd: they were sufficiently talented to turn a defeated and bankrupt nation into the greatest military power in the history of the world, until that time; one which went on to conquer almost all of Europe, forced the destruction of the two largest empires in the history of the world and acted as midwife to the two greatest superpowers in the history of the world, all in a mere twelve years. Contrast that with our recent history.

My father always said: 'People say that it couldn't happen here but it could.' Portraying the Nazis as no more than mindless thugs merely makes that more likely.

Regardless, it was Mussolini who made the trains run on time.