Wednesday, May 07, 2008

BBC bias and cannabis

The BBC were running a piece on the government's plan to upgrade cannabis to a Grade B drug again and during this piece the reporter made a very interesting (to me) comment. They said - and this is from memory .......

Many people have being using cannabis for years without any ill effect.

A couple of points about this.

First off the claim above is anecdotal and loaded. How does the BBC know many people have being using cannabis for years and how do they know they have not had any ill effects? Because they said so? Who did they ask? BBC employees probably.

Secondly, when was the last time you heard the above caveat used in relation to cigarettes or alcohol.

Sometimes it takes just the slightest thing to open your eyes to the truth - and the truth is that the supposedly balanced and non-judgemental BBC is very judgemental and very biased towards the liberal left agenda.

On the same piece the BBC showed an interview with a cannabis user - sitting on a sofa covered in images of marijuana and wearing a shirt smothered in the same design.  Not much bias there then. This chap then went on to say that upgrading cannabis to Grade B would just drive its use "underground"!

No shit Sherlock! Whether it's a Grade B or Grade C drug its use is still prohibited. Stick that in your bong and smoke it pal!

The same guy came up with the usual defence of "I'm not doing anyone any harm". Well, yeah - actually you are mate, 'cos those cannabis plants don't harvest themselves. Nooooo - lots of little slave kids are out there doing it for you and people are being murdered to bring it to you - but you're not doing anyone any harm are you?

Yes you are, you moron.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Of course the BBC know a lot about drugs - most of their employees use them

Eric R. Johnson said...

"The same guy came up with the usual defence of "I'm not doing anyone any harm". Well, yeah - actually you are mate, 'cos those cannabis plants don't harvest themselves. Nooooo - lots of little slave kids are out there doing it for you and people are being murdered to bring it to you - but you're not doing anyone any harm are you?"

Traditionally agriculture takes place out of doors. Cannabis is the exception because a bunch of intolerant loudmouths want to choose everyone's intoxicant for them.

So the slaves are a product of prohibition, and not of cannabis use. This is one more example of how the consequences of cannabis prohibition are blamed on cannabis. It is a lovely side effect for cannabis foes to have to endure. The more they crackdown, the more they think they need to crackdown.

How many slaves are used to produce Guinness? None. Single Malt Scotch? None. That's right, as the politicians themselves imbibe, they have taken precaution to preserve their pet intoxicants.

Until and unless people realize that neither people nor governments have the right to choose one's intoxicant for him/her, the cannabis problems will continue.

You could have just cannabis smokers. But instead, because you support prohibition, you have both cannabis smokers and slavery.

Way to go!

Why should cannabis smokers relent, instead of prohibitionists?

Stan said...

Nice one eric - the old "it's not my fault" excuse! How many slave kids would there be producing cannabis if there wasn't a market for it provided by the likes of you? If anyone needed any evidence that cannabis use fries your brains - you have just provided it!

You're demand for your "intoxicant" is what makes the suppliers use kids - they are cheap, plentiful and easy to manipulate. And expendable. Nothing else - just you and your self gratification. Stop deluding yourself and start taking responsibility - what you do KILLS people. Prohibition has nothing to do with it - plenty of kids are used as virtual slave labour in the sweatshops of the East Indies to provide westerners with everything from brand name trainers to cheap t shirts - and no, even though I'm a capitalist, I DO NOT support that and I don't buy those goods. You see - I practice what I preach.

You don't - you choose to buy your "intoxicant" knowing full well that slave kids are used to provide it for you and knowing full well that people DIED to bring it to you - but still you do it just to satisfy your selfish pleasures. That is bad enough - weak and foolish - but to then try and justify what you do KNOWING the harm it causes others by shifting the blame to someone else is pathetic.

Eric R. Johnson said...

Qote from Stan:
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You don't - you choose to buy your "intoxicant" knowing full well that slave kids are used to provide it for you and knowing full well that people DIED to bring it to you - but still you do it just to satisfy your selfish pleasures. That is bad enough - weak and foolish - but to then try and justify what you do KNOWING the harm it causes others by shifting the blame to someone else is pathetic."


Even nicer one, Stan, the quote above, for I live in California, and my intoxicant, which is medicine for my neuromuscular disease that causes great pain, is produced by American adults from legal dispensaries. So I know from where my cannabis comes.

Here the Mexican gangs are those who produce illegal cannabis for the black market created by prohibition.

Here you have two systems side by side... one run by peaceful and usually ill adults under a legal framework, and another run by violent thugs under a prohibition framework, where even the military are called in to help... which is a Violation of the Constitution of the USA, which means that much more destruction caused by prohibition.

You rabid prohibitionists are the those with the blood on your hands. You always advocate a violent, coercive alleged "final," solution... Just jail or kill them all... because you don't like cannabis or its users.

Well, Stan, you don't run the world, and governments aren't supposed to micromanage people's lives to the point of saying which plants may or may not be consumed.

Look, Stan, before government and civilization, did one individual have the right to choose another's intoxicant (or food, or drink?) Did one have the right to punish others for the "wrong," choice?

No. Neither right existed. So such rights cannot be surrendered to a government under a social contract, e.g. a set of laws.

And as for your final solution, we in the USA have arrested 10 million people between 1993 and 2007, according to FBI annual crime reports. That is 10,000,000 people arrested and incarcerated on simple cannabis possession charges.

These people's lives have been unnecessarily ruined. Yet you boozers can booze it up all night long and then drink-drive home in order to beat your wives and kids and dogs. (If you can insult us, we can insult you... but where does that get us, Stan? Why are you so hot and bothered by cannabis use, anyway, while you are willing to overlook the misery wrought by booze? Why the double standard?)

Yet we still have cannabis, cannabis smokers, and cannabis prohibition.

Just exactly when will this prohibition start to work? Perhaps we could look to prisons to see... What? Scottish prisons overrun with drugs? How can this be? It is a prison, Stan.

How do you expect to keep cannabis from people in a free society, if you cannot even keep it out of your prisons?

It is time for you to face facts, Stan: Prohibition did not even work in the Garden of Eden.

The blood and tears and suffering of these cannabis factory slaves is on -your- hands, as cannabis belongs in the field.

What? You don't like it when the tables are turned and you come out -not- owning the moral high ground on this issue? Too bad. Take responsibility for the misery you and your ilk have wrought.

And why should -any- intoxicants be legal, under the rabid emotion which seems to drive you in this debate? Booze never killed anyone, right ? No problems with booze, say in the Middle East, where it is PROHIBITED?

How did cannabis became illegal worldwide? How long has this been so? If you look this stuff up, which I doubt you will do, as you are a coward who will not face the truth as it regards cannabis, as you cannot see through your hatred, you will find it's basis in US Racism. Period.The USA via the UN made this a worldwide problem, this prohibition.

How much police time would be saved if cannabis were simply produced by UK farmers, or those at home, using a plant box to grow the seed bearing plants given us in the Bible by God?

How many rapes, robberies, or (child) abductions, molestation and murders could be prevented or investigated in the absence of chasing down cannabis factories? How many? Go on, you seem to know everything. Tell us.

Stan said...

Sorry to hear about your illness, eric - but who decides what dosage you take? Is it self medication? Are you aware that there are legal drugs available which are THC based - but they don't get you high?

Don't use your illness as a moral base from which to launch your poisonous personal opinions.

The vast majority of cannabis users do not use it to self-medicate - they use it to for selfish reasons alone and they do it knowing that people died getting it to them.

Your ridiculous ideas about prohibition do not answer the issues.

Now tell me where I advocate a "violent final solution"? (Funny how people like you always try to make everything sound like fascism - I wonder why that is).

I've worked with mental health charities for almost two decades and seen first hand the damage done by cannabis to young people. I've sat with parents who have watched their lovely lively young kids turned into deranged zombies by their use of this poison. The damage caused by cannabis is well known in the world of mental health, Eric - but thanks to the people who really run the world (no, it's not me) - the damage is covered up and referred to as "anecdotal".

All this has a cost to society far far greater than the cost of prohibition, Eric.

Quote: That is 10,000,000 people arrested and incarcerated on simple cannabis possession charges.
These people's lives have been unnecessarily ruined. Yet you boozers can booze it up all night long and then drink-drive home in order to beat your wives and kids and dogs.

Those 10,000,000 people caught in possession of cannabis knew it was illegal Eric - they ruined their own lives. If you break the law you pay the price. And I don't know about California, Eric, but here in the UK it is illegal to drink and drive, beat your wife or your dog - and I don't do any of them.

40 years ago, drink driving was - liker cannabis use today - considered socially acceptable. Today it is not and, as a result of a sustained and clear propaganda campaign it has been reduced significantly in the UK.

See, Eric - prohibition can work. You admit it can with your revelation that many Moslem states do indeed ban alcohol.

But you keep up your snotty delusions and deranged ramblings, Eric - regardless of the consequences. Hey - that's what you liberals are all about after all - a consequence free world.